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The conversation is a deep, soul-centric dialogue between the founder of BSME2E (a global business ecosystem focused on preserving human legacy) and David Whatley (a technology pioneer, practitioner of lifestyle medicine, and corporate speaker).
While the founder shares her massive vision for an interconnected global human ecosystem, David recounts his extraordinary life journey — marked by high-stakes business transformations, devastating personal and financial setbacks, and a profound late-career alignment with health, humanity, and storytelling.
My journey began in the UK town of Boston, home of the Pilgrim Fathers. At school, I won a scholarship to study Electronic and Electrical Engineering at Birmingham University. After university, I began using technology in innovative ways to train managers before my entrepreneurial spirit led me to IBM where I won a national award for one of my demonstrations.
At IBM, I witnessed the dawn of technologies to deliver competitive advantage. It gave me the opportunity in 1984 to set up my first company, Mass Mitec, which became one the leading presentation services companies in the UK, working at the cutting edge of desktop communications technologies, leading to numerous awards at regional, national and international level. At Mass Mitec, I was able to harness the power of an innovative technology to set up the National Presentation Network with over 100 franchise outlets across the UK.
I won a UK Govt award in 1998 for a project called ComKnet (Community Commerce and Knowledge Network) designed to build social and economic wealth in a rural community. This consortium project was selected to be a flagship initiative, but it was here that my eyes were opened to the power of technology to harness human passion for good — in the unlikely shape of my local milkman, who had already set up such a community web portal in his spare time as a hobby. ComKnet also helped me discover extraordinary hidden talent in my own community, a phenomenon which I have seen replicated all across the globe: ordinary people doing extraordinary things for the benefit of others.
In 2000, I ran one of the world's first global web conferences with over 300 participants from across the globe, and in 2007, I launched the Serious Games Institute at Coventry University with the world's first metaverse hybrid conference. In 2012, my book "Gadgets to God" predicted the impact of AI on the future of humanity. Today I am a practitioner and evangelist for technology enabled lifestyle medicine.
The Mission: The founder outlines BSME2E ("Business Soul Mission: Earth to Eternity"), a unified ecosystem spanning 200 countries and 100 categories. Its core purpose is to help people discover their "soul identity" and transition from dreaming to doing, driving, and destiny-making.
The Living Time Capsule: Driven by the fear that modern digital media (CDs, pen drives) will eventually degrade and lose human stories, the founder is working on storing "lead by example" human journeys into DNA capsules and archival scrolls preserved for 2000 years in the Arctic World Archive in Svalbard.
Early Disruption: Coming from a humble background in England, David secured a telecom scholarship but faced an early life-altering event at 16 when he and his girlfriend put their son up for adoption — a deeply emotional story that came full circle decades later via a reality TV program.
Corporate & Entrepreneurial Pivots: David transitioned from engineering to management at British Telecom, then mastered sales at IBM before launching his own highly successful presentation technology consultancy in 1985. He pioneered the mass use of desktop presentation graphics and overnight "Disk Fax" distribution networks in the UK.
The Highs and Lows of Innovation: David secured a £250,000 government grant for ComNet, an early community web portal tackling globalization. However, corporate restructuring post-9/11 caused massive financial strain. A trusted partner took over the project and forced David out, leading to the loss of his house and business, which required him to work night shifts in a frozen food warehouse to survive.
The Metaverse Digital Twin (2006/2007): Rebuilding his life, David became the director of the Serious Games Institute at Coventry University. In 2007, he launched what was likely the world's first hybrid metaverse launch event, creating a perfect "digital twin" auditorium in Second Life.
Driven by a 23andMe DNA test showing a 50%+ genetic risk for Type 2 diabetes, David used his gamification expertise to "gamify his health," losing 21 kilos in three months.
This led to an 11-year practice of lifestyle medicine (focusing on diet, exercise, sleep, and behavioral change). Today, he serves as a non-executive director for the World Lifestyle Medicine Education Services and speaks internationally on community wellness.
Both speakers share a strong belief that life is governed by serendipity and that a higher power or cosmic alignment connects people. David shares numerous instances where random encounters instantly resolved massive logistical problems — such as placing a local newspaper ad for a video editor and instantly recruiting a senior BBC cameraman and a Harry Potter special effects creator who lived in his immediate neighborhood.
A central theme is that ordinary individuals possess incredible, untapped potential. David highlights figures who inspired him:
The speakers debate what it means to leave a legacy. While the founder looks at a high-tech approach (DNA and digital archives), David emphasizes that true immortality rests in what you leave behind in people's hearts and minds. He strives to leave a trail of positive experiences and humor, encapsulating his philosophy with his signature stage-presence catchphrase: "11."
Timeless Note for the Future
When asked what message he would leave in a timeless scroll for future generations, David states:
"Believe in yourself and share good things with your neighbors… Every ordinary person has the extraordinary capability within them. It's just finding it."



